I need your imput…

I received an email today…I can’t stop thinking about it…and need some advice…that is what a blog is for right? Interaction….I am in the process of switching my email messaging to Mail Chimp which will allow me to send beautiful emails with pictures and such…it is costly…about $150 per month because I have 9000 addresses on my account already -(yes I know some of you cannot sign up because I am at my limit and this is why)…and would have to enlist for 10,000+…this is a good problem right…lots of people what to know what is happening at PG….then I get this today…

Just got off the phone with you(meaning the store-she did not talk to me) and will now write to get me unsubscribed.  I have made several failed attempts the last week to unsubscribe from all 3 websites:  Lisa’s blog, Primitive Gatherings, and the store.  I’ve not had any problem with any other website and I know I’m doing it right.  I have loved the store, products, and everything Lisa has done.  There are way too many postings and it’s starting to feel like when we have a famous speaker at our guild and she spends too much time pushing her products.  I don’t think Lisa is in this just for the money, but trust me, it’s starting to look like that and turning me off from the store.  So many more stores in SoCal where I live now sell wool and stuff to go with it, we now have several local choices plus many other websites.  Many of my friends are now feeling the same way and from being your biggest supporters we sometimes look elsewhere.  Please just get me off of these 3 sites and consider sending less for those who still are on them.


Now here is the issue…I sent out 1 email this month..which was yesterday…3 in May and 1 in April and so on…I have blogged 4 times this month so far…2 have been about our family wedding…that everyone at the last two shows and classes have been asking me if I was going to post about the wedding… now the shop sends out little blog posts about shop stuff…there is a lot going on right now and we want to treat our web customers just as well as our walk-in customers……before today I was thinking I was not posting/emailing enough…then that email showed up…
Please tell my your honest opinions….before I spend 1000’s of dollars a year to send out emails……should I schedule emails and blogs… like once a week?  We are starting to work on my new studio where we will be able to do YouTube videos…is this not necessary either?  Is it all too much? I was thinking I was slacking compared to some quilt shop that I am subscribed to….
well… maybe now I will be able to sleep a little better now that I shared this and will get your info…Please be honest…I know I cannot please everyone all the time but need to know if more of you feel this way.  LB


505 responses to “I need your imput…”

  1. Paula Avatar

    I personally enjoy the amount of blog notices. I’m an online customer only as I live in Texas. These help me keep up to date on your products. I will continue to subscribe. Demo videos – wonderful! Thank you!

    1. Julie Avatar

      I enjoy hearing from you about everything (life, projects) ! Would love for you to post more often. It would be cool for you to do the you tube videos ! Keep up the great work ! Wedding pics are great- thanks for sharing !

  2. Vickie Avatar

    Lisa, I personally look forward to each and every email and would really miss them. I say keep them coming please!

  3. Patty Avatar

    Lisa, I do not think you are posting too much! I don’t understand what that person is talking about! I live in SO Cal and in my area we do not have a shop I like. Now if I drive south, to the San Diego area, that means a lot of traffic, then I can get some nice things. I do shop on line too. I LOVED seeing your wedding pictures as well as the posts you send out, though I am not interested in the warehouse sale things. I am usually on a mission when I shop on line. I would love to see the you tube pieces!!
    Maybe you should make sure this person can get unsubscribed!! Loved speaking with you at Long Beach. The shop was much easier to get around in too!

  4. Julie - Me & My Stitches Avatar

    You and I have talked about this before…do not let one take the wind out of your sails. I honestly feel that you do not post too much. And really would like it if you posted more often. I like the quick notes from the girls at the shop, and love the updates from you. So glad that you are posting pictures of the wedding, and always look forward to your posts to see what you are up to. Love to see the new things you are working on, etc. You are doing everything right – don’t change a thing, unless it is to post more often. Some people just have to hate. I mean really…if you don’t want to read it, delete the e-mail…it’s not that hard.

  5. Penny Valentine Avatar
    Penny Valentine

    I enjoy your emails and blogs. Looking at new products and “stuff” and loved the pictures of the wedding!

  6. Becky M Avatar
    Becky M

    Lisa, I love reading your blog posts and the shop posts as well. I am waiting for your tutorials. Please do them. You are running a business and should be pushing your products. I wouldn’t think of unsubscribing. In fact, I would be happy if you posted more often.

  7. Kathy Winkler Avatar
    Kathy Winkler

    I think that woman needs to get a life!!! If she doesn’t want to read, that is what the delete button is for

  8. Karen V Avatar
    Karen V

    I’m shocked by the email you received. I’ve never felt that you or the shop send excessive emails! If anything, I’ve anxiously waited for updates/information that I knew would have to be coming shortly (like for an upcoming event or a new project coming out).
    Please don’t feel that you/the shop email or blog too frequently! I receive much more chatter from other shops and especially from other online companies.
    Hope this helps!

  9. Carolyn Hechel Avatar
    Carolyn Hechel

    I don’t think you post very much and look forward to each post.

  10. Rosemary Redhead Avatar
    Rosemary Redhead

    You can’t please everyone so I think sending this request out is a good idea before you spend your hard earned money. You do not blog too much, you are not pushy, you are a very generous owner and share all your good ideas. Your staff is exceptional, friendly and personable. I am very pleased with your emails/blogging and I very much look forward to hearing from you and/or Jessica at the shop. It is a good way to keep us in the loop. Your blogging/emails are not too frequent and when I don’t hear from you, I know that you are busy creating new ideas for us or you are traveling. I don’t know how you do all that you do … please don’t let one person spoil it for the rest of us!!!!!

    Looking forward to seeing you in Grand Rapids!!

  11. Sharon Heirholzer Avatar
    Sharon Heirholzer

    Personally I love receiving all your emails. I don’t think you (your shop included) send out any more than a lot of shops. I feel it lets us know you a little bit better. I’m just amazed you can find the time to do it all.


  12. Rebecca Avatar

    I like the post frequency. More would be fine. It’s unfortunate the unsubscribe didn’t go smoothly for this gal. I also like the thought process of you just can’t please all.
    Glad to hear of the new ventures. Hugs!

  13. Cathy J Avatar

    I think she was just having a grumpy day. I think the way you are doing things are just fine and I for one enjoy the postings and I don’t think they are overdone or too much in anyway. I’d just file the email away and keep on the track you’re on. You’re doing great! 🙂

    Cathy ♥

    1. Kathy Dinsley Avatar
      Kathy Dinsley

      My thoughts exactly!

  14. Joni Black Avatar

    I certainly don;t mind the e-mails I get or the blog postings. I like to see them so that I know what is out there. I don’t have retail stores around me so I do depend upon the newsletters etc that I get from PG and other places. You know what – you can’t please everyone and if she does not want your e-mails etc – then she has the option to unsubscribe, but she does not speak for me. You are a business and your 9000 sign ups speak for themselves. I think the You Tube videos are a great idea! Go for it.. thanks for sharing.. sometimes it is hard to know what the right thing is…joni

  15. mtneedle Avatar

    Lisa, I wouldn’t let one person’s opinion change what you have planned. I, personally, don’t think you post too much. I love to see what you’re working on, your tips and techniques and to hear about your family. We all know that family and life outside of quilting plays an integral part of who we are. I love getting to know you and your family. Please don’t change what you are doing or are planning to do. Unsubscribe that one person….. People forget there is always the delete button on their keyboard if they don’t want to read a message. Why ruin it for everyone…… Thank you for all that you and your shop does!

  16. Julie Goedeke Avatar
    Julie Goedeke

    I have no problem with the amount of e- mails and posts. I enjoy seeing your things. I certainly don’t feel like you are pushing your products. I wouldn’t have signed up if I didn’t want to see them. Julie Goedeke

    Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:36:25 +0000 To: julgoedeke@hotmail.com

  17. Darlene Avatar

    I like your updates and everything you send out. Please keeping doing everything you do !!!!!! Thank you for everything you do !!!!!!

  18. Sandy Kipphut Avatar
    Sandy Kipphut

    I was shocked by this email. I don’t feel that you post too much. I enjoy receiving everything and love seeing the photos of your family time. Keep up the good work. You are so talented, please don’t let one person spoil what you have.

  19. Twink Avatar

    Your email and blogs are interesting and informative. I’m actually amazed that you have the time to send so much information to us. Hope you are not discouraged because what you do is inspiring .


  20. Kay Naugle Avatar
    Kay Naugle

    I think you are doing great Lisa! I enjoy your blogs and everything you share is up to you to decide if you want to post. You probably will like mail chimp more and it will benefit your business too. I appreciate all of your hard work and creative sharing you do. You and your creative inspiration have made a positive difference in my life and the quilting community as a whole. Rock on sister! (By the way very beautiful wedding photos!)

  21. Judy W. Avatar
    Judy W.

    I always enjoy hearing from you. I love seeing the new projects and anything else you send.

  22. Nancysue Avatar

    Share away 🙂 The more (subscribers) and the more (posts) the merrier. Life is about sharing. Blogging and the internet is about sharing. This is one person, even though she has mentioned that her friends feel the same way, (apparently she has sent out survey monkey to them on the topic?). Let her friends also unsubscribe if they are not happy. Don’t hold her opinion to be anyone’s but hers. One person. Share away my friend!!

  23. Dee Hanson Avatar
    Dee Hanson

    I absolutely LOVE getting emails from the store, from your blog, about whatever is going on with the store, with your family, it’s always fun and interesting. I get lots and lots of emails from companies on line … sometimes more than 1 a DAY (now THAT’s annoying) … please do NOT stop blogging or sending emails. If someone doesn’t want to read it, they have a delete key. That’s what it’s for.

  24. Molly Case Avatar
    Molly Case

    I love you just the way you are.  Thank you for giving me so many hours of pleasure!  I am a little old lady with not much money but still dreaming of those quilts everyday from morning to night and you fulfill lots of creativity in me!  Thank you With Love  Miz Molly

  25. Jane Laureys Avatar
    Jane Laureys

    Love your emails and blogs. I feel that the personalization of what you do only adds to my relationship with your online “shop”. We see you at shows but your emails keep us in touch with YOU. Keep up the wonderful work.

  26. Theresa Avatar

    Hi Lisa, I love receiving your emails and blog posts. I do not feel that you send too much. My personal opinion is you cannot please everyone and no matter how hurt we feel, we just have to let it roll off our shoulders and keep our heads held high. Keep up the good work and thank you for asking for how we feel.

  27. Linda Avatar

    Lisa-don’t you dare change a thing! I so love your posts on your blog and announcements from the store. I also appreciate how you always encourage your followers to support their local quilt stores. You make me feel like I am your friend and love the sisterhood we share in the love of quilting. Also love seeing your dogs and Nick fishing on the lake.I’m always excited to open your email and see what’s new. Unsubscribe that cranky customer and make room for someone who appreciates you as much as I do. Linda

  28. De De Avatar
    De De

    Lisa, I do not k.ow what this person is talking about. You are very talented and have many irons in the fire, so to speak. That is what I like about you. I can read a little about you, making you feel real, you design fabric, write books, all inspiring us. Please do not tress over this message, you cannot make everyone happy all the time, but I believe most of your followers choose to be on your lists.

  29. Lola Underdahl Avatar
    Lola Underdahl

    I love getting your emails. They are certainly not too often. I don’t really understand what that person was
    talking about. I have never tried to unsubscribe from anyone. If I am not interested, I just delete.

    Lola in Minnesota

  30. Nancy D. Avatar
    Nancy D.

    That person is being rediculous!! Please don’t stop anything you are doing…we will all miss it. Most of us sign up because we want to know what is going on and enjoy reading the posts.

    1. Sue Eriksen Avatar
      Sue Eriksen

      I love your emails, blog store blog. I read everyone. I have never met you because of where we live, but I feel like you are a friend I could talk to every day. Keep up the good work.

  31. Serena Creach Clark Avatar

    too love receiving your email – I like to stay up to date with what is going on. If I’m busy, or the post doesn’t interest me, I have no problem hitting the delete button and moving on. I live in Washington and would not be able to stay up-to-day without the blogs, email and Facebook. Please don’t stop – many of us appreciate what you do and how you do it. And please don’t let one unhappy person spoil It for all of us.

    Looking forward to seeing much more of you 🙂

  32. Laura Benthien Avatar
    Laura Benthien

    Geez, I think everyone had a bad week, just like I did! Lisa, I look forward to each and every email, blog post there is. I have pretty much stopped going to quilt shops and shows (I just dont take the time any ore) so when I receive updates I love it! Dont let one dufus concern you, she is only one fish in the sea! You have done a wonderful inspiring job of making yourself lnown and admired, keep up the good work!, and email and blog on!

  33. Cheryl Monroe Avatar
    Cheryl Monroe

    Lisa, please don’t let one unhappy person change who you are and how you do business. Remember for every bad comment there are probably hundreds of unspoken positive customers Unfortunately, we are the quiet majority. I love hearing ALL the news from your blogs and love seeing the personal pictures. You are in no way posting too often. I would love to see more posts and LOVE being on all yours lists. : ) I would love to see some tutorial videos. Hope to hear from you soon! Cheryl

  34. nancy lightfield Avatar
    nancy lightfield

    I love your postings…keep them coming!

  35. Sandy Kent Avatar

    Consider doing what other artist do. They put all their info on Facebook, including the blog posts. Then people have a choice of whether to keep you in their newsfeed or not.
    I would not spend the money on the new thing. I don’t believe it would benefit you enough. You have made a living on primitive not flashy. Lol.
    Most of the other people I subscribe email to, only do monthly letters.
    Good luck with whatever you decide.
    Just keep me in!

  36. Sally Hurst Avatar
    Sally Hurst

    I look forward to your blog posts and love reading them. Don’t change a thing! You tube videos are a great idea too. The person that wrote that is essay off base!

    Sent from my iPhone

  37. Debbie St.Germain Avatar

    I have no problem with your emails or blog postings. I like getting things in the mail, if it is something that doesn’t interest me, I just delete it. I like keeping up to date with news and new patterns and things. I am working on the flower garden piece, now. That seems way too much for a service, you should be able to do the same thing with your own providers service without paying extra.


  38. Tish Rodrigue Avatar
    Tish Rodrigue

    I enjoy your posts and always read them right away. I am subscribed to your blog via bloglovin, also get them in my email plus the store blog posts about the products . I will honestly say it is not too much for me. I live in Oregon and we have great stores with wool products and notions but I usually go through your website to compare prices and products. I find that a lot of the patterns I want to do are usually produced by you and you are very competitive in prices. Trust me – you are doing it right! Do not let one persons negative remark question your success. My only problem is that I can not go to your shop or warehouse sales for wool!!! 🙁

  39. Sydney Holmwood Avatar
    Sydney Holmwood

    Lisa, don’t change a thing! You have a wonderful store, great blog and so on! That person is nuts! I love every bit of mail I get from you, the store or the blog! Thanks for being you! Sleep tight!

  40. Rebecca H Avatar
    Rebecca H

    I am happy with the number of emails and blog post that you make. I wouldn’t even mind a few more blog postings. Most of the other quilt stores that I subscribe to send out 1 or 2 emails a week. I don’t see a problem with yours– that person and anyone else who doesn’t like it has a delete button and a block email button- they have a choice to use them or keep their mouth shut!

  41. Mary Ann Owens Avatar
    Mary Ann Owens

    Lisa, go for it!!!! I love everything you send out and I was so excited to learn about you doing videos! The woman who wrote that nasty e-mail has too much time on her hands; I wondered if she had ever heard of the delete button if she didn’t want to read your e-mails, etc. I am from California and there is NOTHING out there that compares to what you sell! I now live in the Dallas area and we have awesome quilt stores but NONE compare to what you produce. Keep on, keeping on!!!!!

    Mary Ann

  42. Nancy Pleimann Avatar
    Nancy Pleimann

    Keep them coming. When I see one from you I go there first.

  43. Linda Avatar

    I do not think that you post too much at all. Because I am not local I like that everyone is kept apprised of what is happening. I look forward to each post.

  44. Joyce Beenes Avatar
    Joyce Beenes

    Lisa, I have been a customer for about one year. I enjoy your posts. If I don’t have time one day that something comes in my in box, I have the option to save it for another day.

    I hope that someday I can visit your shop in person, and please don’t give up the 12 days of Christmas, I totally enjoyed it and I finished the table topper from last year and have received many compliments.


    Joyce Beenes stampingjoy.ctmh.com

  45. Marilyn Avatar

    Please don’t let one person spoil what you were planning. I really enjoy the e-mails from you and Jessica. There isn’t a place by me that sells wool or Valdani threads, so I have been buying on line from you for several years now. I loved seeing the pictures of the wedding, and I like the way that you make the on-line shoppers feel that they are part of what goes on in the shop and in your life. Thank you for that.

  46. Brenda Hanes Avatar
    Brenda Hanes

    Lisa, Keep sending all you want. That is why we sign up! People can choose whether or not to read all of them. I love the new products and the wedding pics are great.

  47. val Avatar

    Lisa, your last sentence said it perfectly. .. you can’t please everyone all the time. She was a customer (and maybe a good one) and will probably still be in the future. Remove her from the list and move on. You have inspired loads of people and I would be willing to bet that some of those people are the very shop owners she is talking about. Keep doing what you love and you can’t go wrong.

  48. Lori Avatar

    I love seeing everything and being able to share. LOVED the wedding pics…& today I got my copy of Flannel Gatherings. Look forward to everything from PG……keep it coming. You inspire us all.

  49. Leanne Avatar

    Hi Lisa,

    I enjoy your blog posts and the shops blog posts (I’m not on your email list but would like to be on that too). You are always showing pictures of something I would love to make or giving a helpful hint or talking about a new tool or new pattern or where you’re traveling or something that you enjoy. I think your blogs are a great way to let us know what’s going on at the shop. I have never felt you were pushing your products on me. I really look forward to all your posts and I don’t feel it’s too much. Please keep the posts coming…don’t let one email spoil it for the rest of us.

    Enjoy your weekend,

  50. Stacey larson Avatar
    Stacey larson

    If anything I think your emails have been less than before and what you send is No Way pushing products. Some of he blogs I follow send emails daily Moda being one of them. It appears to me this person has chosen you as her person to pick on for no valid reason. I’ve enjoyed seeing the family stuff all the fun and in good taste and the wedding has been amazing to view. Emails like that in my opinion you just take in you know to be fact and the rest you find a way to let go. You have soooooo many of us who love and appreciate all you do. Don’t let one bad apple take that away. For heavens sake I had anywhere I could have gone for my 50th and I’m coming to the gathering!!!! I can’t wait. I know when I have a lot on my plate I take things now to heart than I normally would but I think if you search within yourself you know this person is speaking untruths. I hope many of your followers reassure you of how much you bring to us that is positive. Brush it off and keep up the amazing work you do. Some people you just can’t make happy.

  51. Jackie Duerden Avatar
    Jackie Duerden

    Lisa, I look forward to all your blog posts. You are such a great and creative person, and I can’t wait until you come out with new patterns. You will never please everyone. Keep it up and remember there are many of us that love what you do.

  52. Rhonda McCray Avatar
    Rhonda McCray

    You can’t please everyone. Your loyal followers want to hear from you as much as you want to talk to them. I say do what you want and if a few people don’t like it – oh well. Sounds like this woman just wanted to bitch about something. It is pretty easy to hit the delete key when you don’t want to read something!

  53. Carolyn Maynard Avatar
    Carolyn Maynard

    Lisa, please don’t let one individual’s personal opinion get you down! Your communications are enjoyable, educational, and are not excessive! I particularly enjoyed the Days of Christmas! My only lighthearted complaint is that when I am fortunate enough to be in your area, you are rarely there, in your shop 😎 ! I love to shop there anyway, and find your staff to be exceptional! You are one busy family, and we look forward to seeing you at AQS Grand Rapids! Keep up the outstanding talent, work ethic, and communication style!

  54. Marsha Gardner Avatar
    Marsha Gardner

    I really don’t think you post too much! I enjoy all your posts and they keep me in touch with what is going on. You can’t make everyone happy.

  55. Brenda Avatar

    I enjoy reading your posts and seeing pictures that are posted or of family things. I love that you are willing to share the wedding with us and others things about your family. It makes you a real person and not just a shop. Even though I don’t have money now to spend on projects, I love being inspired by the projects you post and to know what new things are coming.

  56. Juleee Avatar

    Just read all the above comments and I agree with them….keep the blogs and emails coming and if you want to do more that would be okay with me…I always read your blog first, anxious to see what you have come up with new. Don’t let one person change it for all the rest of us, see that she gets unsubcribed to your emails and blog….

  57. Jane Zagrodnik Avatar
    Jane Zagrodnik

    I love love your blogs emails. I do not think they are too much. I want useful tips, new project insights etc!

  58. Sharon Nejedlo Avatar
    Sharon Nejedlo

    Lisa, I love your posts…please don’t send less!!

  59. Kathy Covert Avatar

    Lisa, I enjoy your blog and the other emails. I do not think that you send out too many emails. They don’t even compare to some of the ones I get from Macy’s (daily) -too many- same with chain stores. I do admit that if I think an email is too lazy to send me a photo of what they are selling and just send me a 30% off notice, I just garbage it. I really feel that there is something else going on with the person that wrote you the email. She seems upset. Maybe it wasn’t her at all, maybe her husband ? Upset with her spending. Just saying, it’s only one person. She has the ability to hit the delete button. I for one, enjoy all of your communications with me. I look forward to the sale notices and the blog.


  60. Kathy Costello Avatar
    Kathy Costello

    I get more posts on Facebook from people playing Candy Crush then I do from you. I live in Tennessee and I only know of only one shop here that sells wools, many of your products. I really like the updates so I know what is new out there.

  61. geos301 Avatar

    Someone show this person the delete button! Omg!

  62. Linda Ray Avatar
    Linda Ray

    I like getting your emails and don’t think you are overdoing it. Maybe the person who complained should find the delete button on her computer. It is just that simple if you don’t like some emails.

  63. Tammy Penley Avatar

    You don’t post too much! I really like the pics. of quilts & such that you share. That person must have one thread too tight! lol Don’t let it worry you. 1 out of 9000 isn’t to bad…

  64. Laura Strawn Avatar
    Laura Strawn

    Hmmmmm, I was thinking like you that you were not posting enough! 🙂 Please keep them coming!!

  65. Sandy Forbes Avatar
    Sandy Forbes

    Don’t think you need to spend the large amount of money ,I am happy with the emails. Plus we know how else to find you:)

  66. Karen G. Avatar
    Karen G.

    Lisa, Keep the post ‘s coming, I look forward to them!! Wedding pics are great ! Always read your blogs, we are well informed. Keep up the great work!!!

  67. debby Avatar

    I’d ignore that gal…she has issues that have nothing to do with you. Just love your blog, website, wedding pics, etc. Keep them coming:)

  68. Sandy D Avatar
    Sandy D

    I am quite satisfied with your blogging and seeing pictures of different things that are happening.I do not feel I am getting too many.

  69. Sharon Avatar

    I always love your blogs about new projects you are developing and what’s new online and in shop but I must agree that lately feel too many emails lately. I loved wedding pics and appreciated your willingness to share with us, by the way you looked lovely too. I have received several emails or blogs weekly sometimes daily. I would scale back. I don’t think I need to see what you are doing at other guilds or shops so maybe save for them only. Starting to feel Lille a travel log blogger. Save your money and do only your blog once per week cause then shop can have one per wk too.

    1. Kathie Avatar

      I respectfully disagree. I loved the pics you showed of another guilds show & tell and found them inspiring. Keep on doing what you’re doing. I can’t wait for the u-tube videos. Hopefully there will be some wool & stitching tutorials included.

  70. Karen Avatar

    Don’t stop! It is not too much. This is your business. Of course you are going to write about it, plus other cool stuff like family, garden, shows, home. I subscribed because I love your designs and products. How silly would it be if you and the shop staff didn’t tell us about them? You all also provide fantastic expertise in the posts. I will welcome all that you want to share.

  71. Shelly Avatar

    Keep them coming!

  72. Susan Gray Avatar
    Susan Gray

    I do not feel that there are two many emails or postings at all. I do not subscribe to blogs anymore, I use Feedly. I add blogs to my list. When I open Feedly, I see all the new postings since I last visited. I can look at a quick post and then go to website for more info. I do this on my Ipad. I don’t know if using something like Feedly could help with the expenses you discussed-not my area of expertise, I think it is similar to google reader…..don’t let one bad apple spoil things for everyone else!

  73. Karen Avatar

    P.S. I have to go shop now at a great warehouse sale that i found out is available to me online because I saw a post about it!

  74. LO Avatar

    Don’t stop… I is not too much (I AGREE). If we don’t want to open it and read it, nothing is forcing us to. I get BOMBARDED from other businesses… and I just delete them if I don’t want to look at them.

  75. Pat Avatar

    I like the way you do things now. Enjoy what you post and do not think you over do it! Please don’t let one grumpy person spoil this for everyone else. I look forward to what you send.

  76. Mary Jean P Avatar
    Mary Jean P

    I enjoy your posts and don’t feel there are too many. I’m always interested in what might be new. The complainer can always hit the delete button!

  77. Vicki Yanda Avatar
    Vicki Yanda

    I think your postings are very informative and appropriate! If you don’t post, I don’t know what’s new, exciting at your shop, etc. I also don’t understand how anyone can feel compelled to read an email they’re not interested in. If someone thinks there are too many, let them filter them in whatever way works for them….but not by depriving those of us who enjoy your “news”. Just my thoughts! Keep up the good work…obviously you’re doing something right!!

  78. Rita Nichols Avatar
    Rita Nichols

    Lisa I can’t get enough! I wish I lived close enough to be a regular at the store but the next best thing is to feel like I’m included in what’s new and happening via your posts. My goodness at the Duluth Show your booth was a very dangerous place for my wallet! It ranked right up there with the chocolate isle at Target! I totally enjoy your posts!!!

  79. Skye Avatar

    I like your posts, Lisa. They do not seem like too many or too self promoting at all.
    You’re good, girl. Do what you do so well.

  80. Pame Avatar

    I hope after reading all the above comments in this short of time you realize you need to ignore the grumpy lady and keep up the good work you are doing. I check the blog sometimes 3 times in a day just to see if anything is new or pics that you post. We all enjoy being part of your circle of friends and seeing about all your family and new products and what you are up to. Love the pics!! keep the blogs and emails coming!!

  81. Alicia Key Avatar

    I’m hungry for all news! Don’t stop! Silly lady- if she didn’t want to see it or read it, just delete it! Some people are never happy and the rest of us all love it! Keep up the good work!….now, I’ve got to go find out how to get to the warehouse sale “online” like Karen above mentioned!

  82. Jane Avatar

    No, you do not post too much. I do have (or had) some that post daily and I do think that is way too much. You must be doing something right. Every time I go to your booth at one of the quilt shows your booth is crammed full of customers and they aren’t walking out empty handed. 🙂

  83. sally peters Avatar
    sally peters

    Love the emails and the blog and love the idea of you tube videos!  Love seeing and hearing about new products and if some people think that is a sales pitch, so be it.  I signed up for emails because I want to be informed.  You are doing a terrific job!  Keep it up!


  84. Zane Jacks Avatar
    Zane Jacks

    Please don’t stop the emails, blog post, etc. I am always excited to hear from you. your newsy posts make me feel like you consider us more than customers, but also friends. And, I would love to see youtube videos, as well. Although I really can’t imagine why they would want to, can you make it easy to unsubscribe for those few who don’t want to hear. Then you truly can please almost everyone.

  85. Jane O'Neal Avatar
    Jane O’Neal

    Lisa, one of the things I love about you and your blog is your generosity In sharing, not just the business stuff, but your personal life with us… Weddings, lake houses, the boys… But more importantly your advocating for us all to use our local quilt shops whenever possible. You share the process of your ever expanding business, and we are thrilled for you because you inspire us!

    I am one of your group of Colorado fans that makes your booth our first stop on Wednesday nights in Houston (and blow half our budget) and we love briefly chatting with you (and flirting with Nick!). Keep up the great work! See you in Houston!

  86. JoAnn W. Avatar
    JoAnn W.

    I want to continue all your posts! I get lots of email, and you DO NOT send out too many posts/emails, believe me! Sorry this one person was unhappy, but you know how that goes. Just continue to show up the newest stuff, cute ideas and even wedding photos. If I’m not interested I can go on to the next email, what’s the big deal!!!???


  87. Renee Avatar

    I really enjoy your e-mails and when I don’t get one for a while I go to your website to make sure I didn’t miss anything. Please don’t stop.


    Love the emails. I get ones from other places that I don’t want, but anything from PG I look forward to. I enjoy information about new things in the shop as well as home/family photos from you. I also hope you will do some You-Tube videos with some tutorials. Love you Lisa. There’s always (at least) one in every crowd. And your crowd loves you!

  89. carolsteffensenol Avatar

    Personally, I would help her get unsubscribed as quickly as possible, and then go ahead and send out as many blog posts, newsletters, emails as much as you want and when you want, i enjoy getting them from the ones I have subscribed to, and when the time comes that their posts no longer interest me, I kindly unsubscribe myself and keep my mouth shut! This is your business, and you have every right to handle it as you please. That is the only way to effectively run an online business. You have to communicate with your customers because you don’t have the advantage of people just strolling in like you do in brick and mortar stores. Keep em coming!!

  90. Sandy Avatar

    I enjoy receiving your emails and blogs. You keep us informed on the latest quilt items. You even introduced me to a new shop, Tumecula Quilts which I really appreciate. The family wedding pictures were a joy and you looked fabulous. So needless to say, keep the emails and blogs coming. Sandy

  91. Linda Frihart Avatar
    Linda Frihart

    Lisa, the mailings from you and the store are truly appreciated by me. You all keep me up to date with the loveliest, well written reports on what is new and where to find it on your website. Hope you will continue to contact me whenever your heart desires. Fun to receive personal reports from time to time. Reminds me that we are all humans in this electronic world. That old story about the delete button stands. Too much mail can be eliminated painlessly.

  92. wendy Avatar

    I totally agree with everything that Cheryl above said!!!! Don’t worry about the grumpy old ladies that complain!!!

  93. lyonsden@cabletv.on.ca Avatar

    Lisa, keep on doing what you are doing. I love to hear from you and becase our lives are so busy, it reminds me to keep up with the new stuff coming out. Thank you. Wish I could retreat at your place again. My husband and I are coming from Ontario in September. Can’t wait. Jane Lyon

  94. Audrey Avatar

    Um, someone forgot her little pink pill…for days!
    She seems to be speaking for all of SoCal as well…Fix her unsubscribe, wash your hands and take care of your staff and us customers. We support your business, enjoy your work, and chose to be on your list. 9000, really? I think she is the minority here.
    Don’t ever sweat the small stuff. Customers Adore the personal connection with your family too. It sure brings a human side to such a busy shop.
    The only thing I ever hope for is more computer stuff from your store staff! The staff at your store is the heartbeat of your business and you run one my favorite shops!

  95. Elizabeth New Zealand Avatar
    Elizabeth New Zealand

    I love your emails and blogs, so pease keep them coming. I could not beleve what I was reading , that lady is the looser

  96. Kathy A. Avatar
    Kathy A.

    I enjoy all the postings and check out the “new” tab on your website quite often. You are a very talented lady. Don’t let the comments of that person cloud your day. You have many followers and supporters who if not for you, give us inspiration to create and sew many beautiful things for our homes. Keep the postings, pictures and tutorials coming and thank you Lisa for all you do!

  97. Charmaine Avatar

    I love everything you post and everything you sell and everything you so generously do for your customers! I live in So Cal too and I am grateful for your shop, website,blog, etc. So just get that complainers address off your list and keep doing what you,re doing because you have a huge fan club out here in quilterland and we want you to keep doing what you do! When I bought stuff at your booth in Long Beach I asked Nick if you are going to be at Road to California…he said yes so I can,t wait to buy more PG things there! Keep up the good work, Lisa! You are amazingly talented!

  98. Pati Beck Avatar
    Pati Beck

    Some of us do not have other shops near us nor can we get to classes or shows and we look forward to your blogs. We learn from them and also enjoying hearing about your family. For those who do not want to read your posts can skip over them. Nothing says we have to read them just because they are there.

  99. Pat Wright Avatar
    Pat Wright

    Take heart. You are doing great. Keep moving forward and ignore the negative comment. I am in So Cal and we need you . Assume she was having a bad day.

  100. Jackie Avatar

    I’m a newer subscriber and I don’t feel I’m getting over loaded with communications from you. I enjoy seeing what’s new and what you are working on. I wouldn’t let that one response stop you from doing what you love. Everyone at times receive too many emails and some days you just have to pick and choose which ones you will read. I would rather hear from you as often as I do or more, you’ve introduced me to many wonderful things. Keep up the good work.

  101. quiltingwitho Avatar

    Absolutly NO, your are not posting too much, you are doing just great!! I look forward to reading them and the u2 videos, please dooo!!!

  102. Mary Jane Avatar
    Mary Jane

    Guess there is one in every crowd (unfortunately). I enjoy your emails. There are times I don’t feel like reading, so I just delete. I have only been on your list for a short time. Bt keep up the good work.

  103. Nina Christman Avatar
    Nina Christman

    I don’t get emails from the store, just your blog. I love the blog. I like seeing what is coming out and your new kits and fabric. I certainly don’t feel you send too much. I get many more from other quilt bloggers. I would like more things from you. I have never felt you pushed your things too much, but, of course, you talk about your products that is why I read them. I was very excited to see your new line of fabrics and the patterns and I’m sure I will get them. If my local quilt shop carries the fabrics, I will get them there; if not, I am happy to know I can get them from you.

  104. LONA Avatar

    Lisa, Wow- what an E-mail- sounds like unloading is a symptom of a bigger problem and you are getting the blame. I look so forward to your posts and I check your website and blogs daily for updates. I live in Nebraska, so am an internet customer only. Please don’t decrease the amount of communication. Visiting your store is on my quilting “bucket list”. You and your staff are doing a great job and I look forward to continued high quality service and products.
    Keep up the good work

  105. Sheri Dixon Avatar
    Sheri Dixon

    That lady was pretty harsh — like she had some kind of other problem as opposed to offering positive input as to what would be better for her. So she’s probably an outlier (statistically speaking). I happened upon your blog and loved your stuff but haven’t been a customer (just a window shopper) so probably shouldn’t give any input either and I’m going to unlink myself because that will leave room for others and I can still stop by. Hopefully you’ll get a consensus of opinions that will help you decide the right thing for you and your shop! Best wishes to you!

  106. Chris Avatar

    Well, I love the emails and blog posts. I want to know what is new, what is coming and love what you share (beautiful wedding pics). I would love to see you tube videos. Sometimes I need motivation and the posts/emails get me there, as far as product pushing well that is not the way I see it. I live in Michigan so I am unable to come into the store, if I lived close I would probably be in all the time, and you are a store and you make your living selling your goods so letting us know is wonderful. Things sell out fast so when you let us (out of towners) know we can order.

    I say keep up the good work and keep us up to date. 🙂
    Thank you for all you do.

  107. Carol Eberhardt Avatar
    Carol Eberhardt

    Hi, I live at Primitive Gatherings vicariously thru your blogs, website and emails. I LOVE everything your shop carries, I loved the 12 days of Christmas which was, let’s face it, both informational and sales driven …. but some of the items you favored were items some of us didn’t know about and were glad to consider buying. If I could have afforded the Juki I would have ordered it for sure!

    The woman who is tired of your info … nice she has several places in SoCal to buy WOOL … I live in the northeast and don’t have a shop within 30 miles for wool so ordering is great … your company is the best in terms of quality and price.

    So …. if you keep things as they are, great. If it’s worth the money to go with the new concept, fine. If you take the one lady’s suggestion and use Facebook and save your money, fine! Just don’t stop posting even when some posts are about selling stuff!

    Delete, people! A handy button for grumpy people!

    Finally, I have been waiting for your YouTube videos so PLEASE do not abandon your plans! There is not one shop in my area that does wool classes so I am teaching myself. I’d love any input you post!

  108. karriesmith Avatar

    Wow. I get over a hundred emails a day bc I subscribe to a lot of quilting blogs and sewing blogs AND fabric stores bc I don’t want to miss anything. I feel bad bc I had NO idea that you had to pay for mail chimp!!! You DO NOT post too much and please don’t take that crabby lady’s email to heart. I don’t receive many emails from you and sometimes I get 2-3 emails per week from shops. I’ve heard that there has been weird problems with Chimp Monkey this week. Two people-who prob don’t know each other- had their accounts banned bc people complained thAt they sent out too many emails!!! I am NEVER mad at someone who sends out 20 yummy dessert recipes every week! It was rediculous to complain when that person could have unsubscribed.

    So- in my honest opinion, you do NOT send out too many emails. And I don’t understand that lady bc you have a brand that you are SELLING. Of course you are promoting it!!! The only suggestion I can think of, is have a separate MONTHLY newsletter for people that only want a monthly thing. But I really hope that you don’t have to pay for this. But I like what you are doing and keep up the great work!!

  109. Bonnie Avatar

    Lisa, Don’t let her change the way you have been doing things, if anything I would like to see more updates on your blog. I like to know what the new things are so when I come to your store(I live in southern Wisconsin) I kind of know what I want or what will be coming in next.
    Like they say everyone is either a Tigger or an Eeyore. You are a Tigger and she obviously is an Eeyore!!!!!!
    Like someone in an earlier comment said, she can always delete it.
    Keep up the wonderful work

  110. Patti Wiggs Avatar
    Patti Wiggs

    I love opening my email and having a mailing from you and/or Primitive Gatherings and love being kept current with all that you do – only frustration is that I would also like to do all that you offer – if only you could sell time. I have unsubscribed from a few sites as what was offered was going in another direction which is NOT the case with Primitive Gatherings. Please do not scale down your postings and I think it is also great sharing some of your personal life as well. Thank you for all that you do.

  111. Glenie Marie Byrd Avatar
    Glenie Marie Byrd

    I don’t know what this person is talking about either! I live in Florida and my husband has been sick for the last nine months. The blog has been a lifesaver. As far as You Tube is concerned. . . the faster the better! Can’t wait.
    GB Hollywood, FL

  112. Lorraine Clarke Avatar
    Lorraine Clarke

    No,do not listen to her, you keep on doing as you are doing and how you want to do it , if she doesn’t like it anymore there is always a delete button on here keypad, I live in Australia and don’t get to access stores like yours, I look forward to seeing what you are up too,by the way the wedding was just stunning. So keep to the positive not the negative , you go girl!

  113. karriesmith Avatar

    PS. It takes up to 10 days to be unsubscribed. I was getting SPAM from an old account and I unsubscribed and all of a sudden I kept getting a few emails a day when I haven’t for a few months. I pressed unsubscribe and then sent an email on the third day that said “unsubscribed please” and someone wrote back and said it takes up to 10 days. If it was me, I’d post dailyfor the next few weeks, teehee.

  114. Doris R Avatar
    Doris R

    Lisa, it never ceases to amaze me how some people think that they get to speak for everyone. Just because she has issues, doesn’t mean that the rest of us feel the same way! I enjoy your emails, and your blog and shop. I think that videos would be great, because some people are visual learners. Continue to grow your business and don’t worry about a few people who are not happy with the way you are doing things. There is ALWAYS the option to not read and not to buy.

    Oh, I LOVED the wedding pictures!

  115. Ann P. Avatar
    Ann P.

    Keep the blog posts and emails coming. In fact, I would like to receive more of them. I am not able to make it to your shop as often as I would like so this keeps me in the loop on what is happening. I would love to see some U-tube videos. Do you ever do any retreats? I was fortunate enough to stay at The Gathering once.

  116. SueAnn Wirick Avatar
    SueAnn Wirick

    I’ve always liked hearing from you…..blogs, blurbs ,skywriting. If what you post in addition to the shop is too much for this lady and some of her friends then she can remove herself from your mailings…..leaving more openings for other lovers of all things primitive. I personally love seeing your posts in my in box! Keep at it lady.

  117. Yvonne Avatar

    She thinks you send too many e-mails? She certainly does not speak for me. I say MORE MORE MORE!!! I love reading about what’s going on at your shop, your travels, your shows, your family, etc. I live in Georgia and there are no shops that carry all the great products your shop has. You are so creative and inspiring – thanks for sharing with those of us that aren’t able to visit the shop in person. And I look forward to the You Tube videos – I would really enjoy learning from you! Also, as some others have mentioned, I can’t wait for the Twelve Days of Christmas/Your Favorite Things – I really enjoyed that last year!

    Now I think I’ll go re-read an e-mail I’ve saved – the unveiling of Floral Gatherings! I love looking at the pictures of your new fabric line – I can’t wait to get my hands on this in November! 😉

  118. Kathleen OGrady Avatar
    Kathleen OGrady

    I don’t think you post to often. I enjoy everyone of your posts. Please keep doing what you have been doing!

  119. Mary Pasewark Avatar
    Mary Pasewark

    I love getting your emails and blog posts! It is not too much. Please keep doing what you are doing! It’s great!

  120. Caren B. Avatar
    Caren B.

    Lisa, How sad that there’s always that one that just can’t help being pathetic. It wouldn’t matter what you tried to do, those are the ones you can never please. Keep up everything the way you have been. I’ve always wondered how much do you sleep as you are so busy.

  121. Susan P Avatar
    Susan P

    Someone must have gotten out of the wrong side of the bed, as my mother would often say when we were crabby. I say, don’t change a thing. I’m a recent subscriber and love reading your updates and hearing what’s going on. As a matter of fact, sometimes I think you’re postings are too short and would like to see more.

  122. Sandy Avatar

    Keep the emails and posts coming. I look forward to them. I can read them another day if I am too busy to open them ….. but that has not happened. Don’t make any changes. Just keep doing what you are doing. It is fun for us to get to know the quilters we buy from better and to see the new goodies you are working on. Thanks.

  123. Patty Avatar

    Love the blog, love your work, love hearing about the projects and your life. I’d like more PG…

  124. Jan W. Avatar
    Jan W.

    I’d like to see “teaching” u tube videos. Think in some ways there may be just a few too many postings from P.G. Love your vision and offerings but I do get overwhelmed by all the offerings.

  125. Linda Caldwell Avatar
    Linda Caldwell

    I don’t think you send out too many e-mails. Maybe the lady is having a bad day (or two). Loved the wedding posts by the way.
    Linda C

  126. Meme Avatar

    One out of 9000 plus, really? You cannot please everyone, but I think your track record is over the top. Keep doing what you are doing and add more. Your emails are a big hilite of my day. Send the lady a little wool packet and wish her a sunshine day, to include deleting her address. There is someone else that would love to get on your email list. This TX girl loves Primitive Gatherings

  127. Kathryn Casavant Avatar
    Kathryn Casavant

    I like all the things you send! Please keep them coming! You can’t please everyone. She should have called you so you could have fixed it for her. When I had a problem you called me and it was fixed right away with no problem. You were so nice to work with thank you! KLC

  128. Mary Samaniego Avatar
    Mary Samaniego

    Lisa – I look forward to your blogs, emails, shop blogs, all information pertaining to Primitive Gatherings. In fact you could send out more. I’m really looking forward to the classes that you are getting ready to start on you-tube. You are a very genuine person. Don’t change anything you are currently doing. One person who seems to have had a bad day isn’t a reason to stop anything. And she certainly isn’t talking for this So Cal girl. Can’t wait for your new fabric line to come out!

  129. Mary Ellen Avatar
    Mary Ellen

    I certainly look forward to your posts and enjoyed seeing the wedding photos also. I have unsubscribed from other shop’s emails before because I lost interest in what they are doing! However I feel that is a reflection of my changing tastes and certainly no fault of the shop owner or designer. Please keep on doing what you do because the majority enjoys your designs and products. As the expression goes “Some people would bitch if you hung them with a new rope”!

  130. Marian Avatar

    If someone isn’t happy, unsubscribe or delete. Personally, I love the info and would like more pictures. With the hundreds of BOWs that you do, you’re doing something right. Blog on! Sell more! You’ve always encouraged supporting local quilt stores first. Videos? Woohoo!

  131. Gretchen Bolar Avatar
    Gretchen Bolar


    I get a lot of “junk” email messagesmore than those I want to readeach dayI seem to get about 100 emails a day. It is simple to delete them. I delete some of yours and read others you have sent. Have no idea why I decide to read some and not to read others on any particular day I have enjoyed the wedding onesalthough the only person I recognized was your husband. I treat Sue Spargo the same way. You are not forcing us to read yours. Freedom of the press!!!!!

    Do not spend any money you do not have to.

    Saw you at Long Beachalways enjoy your booth. Looking forward to seeing you at Road.


  132. Sharon phillips Avatar
    Sharon phillips

    Lisa, we enjoy seeing all of your posts. Do not let one person be your gauge. Your patterns are inspirations for all of us. P.s. I live in So. Ca. Also and there isn’t that great of wool selection. Sharon

  133. Lana Cadwallader Avatar
    Lana Cadwallader

    You don’t post enough. I want more. I order on line and love the post from the store. I like knowing about your studio, house, projects and life. How would I know about the new stuff if you didn’t post. I live too far away to visit the store. You creative talents and energy are amazing. It’s because of your posts that I got involved with working with wool and now it’s one of my passion. Keep on posting—–more please. Yes for tutorials!

  134. GB Avatar

    BTW. What is wrong with making money? This is how jobs are created!

  135. Judith Avatar

    Lisa: Don’t you dare stop sending emails!! She apparently has nothing better to do but pick on others. I like the emails and all of your information. No one forces her to read them and I’m sure she is one of a very few. Ignore it!

  136. Teri LaVoy Avatar
    Teri LaVoy

    Hi Lisa: I look forward to your blog. It is the one that I follow the most. I love the wool pics, the updates on family, class pics…just about everything. Looking forward to the tutorials. Keep those creative juices flowing and send them our way. Hugs and thanks

  137. Karen M Avatar
    Karen M

    I check everyday to see if you or the shop have posted anything new. I love the pictures and recipes shared. I live too far away to see the shop so I think the more the better. It makes a girl dream. Please keep it coming.
    I’m always excited to see the new posts and newsletters. Thanks, Karen M

  138. Pat Doyle Avatar
    Pat Doyle

    You definitely don’t post too much … I surely enjoy your posts! Is there a way you could make it easier for people to unsubscribe? Sometimes people’s lives get busy and they have to drop out of a few things. Maybe that’s it for that lady. Don’t let it bother you!

  139. GB Avatar

    What is this woman talking about? Your blog has been a life saver for me as my husband has been sick for nine months and it has been impossible for me to even think about getting out to a shop. If it wasn’t for your blog, I would not have become the wool junkie that I am. As far as You Tube is concerned, I can’t wait. BTW. What is wrong with making money? That’s how jobs are created! Keep the blog coming, only MORE OFTEN! Hopefully, you will be blessed with even more success than you have already experienced.

  140. Lesa Avatar

    No problems. Enjoying the posts and there are not too many. Just let her unsubscribe and don’t fret about it

  141. Mary D Avatar
    Mary D

    Lisa, I love your blog posts, e-mails and the store posts. It keeps me current and if I don’t have time to read it that’s my problem, not yours! Keep posting, it always feels like a message from my friend Lisa :0)mcdqui

  142. Janet Avatar

    I love hearing from you and thank you for including real life interests. I have a delete button and know how to use it if I receive mail I can’t use. I enjoy the newsletters, your posts and new projects, it keeps me excited! Keep up the great communication. I live in a small community so don’t get to see all the neat new things often, our local quilt shop doesn’t carry primitive anything.

  143. Gail D. Avatar
    Gail D.

    I don’t think you post to much, sometimes not enough😊. I like the store’s post because they let me know or remind me of what is going on. Don’t stop blogging because of one person opinion. Let her unsubscribe and forget about it.

  144. Linda Schaefer Avatar
    Linda Schaefer

    LOVE IT just the way it is, but more would be better (for me anyways). especially pics of “the boys” 🙂

  145. Maggie Avatar

    I love your posts so I can see new projects and I also like seeing your family photos too! Without it I wouldn’t know what’s new that I could sign up for! Keep the posts coming 🙂 and by the way….aren’t you in business to make money? I don’t get that point of that email….you are trying to run a business and to do that you need to pitch us new projects so we can buy them if we want to!!

  146. PK Avatar

    If I think I’ve received too many emails, well I just delete them. I don’t read every post, but enjoy the ones I do read, and it keeps me connected to my favorite medium, wool. Your down to earth way of writing is easy and pleasant to read. I hope you continue posting.

  147. Karen Carr Avatar
    Karen Carr

    I don’t usually respond to anything, but I like what you do – I purchased summer block of week last summer & finishing kit.  I loved all the info. (especially info at Christmas time) about how to do it as I am new to this.  I read info that is interesting to me & delete the rest (like I think you do a civil war quilt & sales/classses at the shop – I will never get to shop so I delete that).  Everyone has been very nice to me when I have done phone orders – THANKS so much for what you do!!!

  148. Sheila Plock Avatar
    Sheila Plock

    Lisa, have loved your designs and own many of them. I live in PA so if I couldn’t take advantage of your shop online, would be lost. Took your class at Hershey on the Christmas mat and learned so much. I wasnt new to wool applique either but your tips made everything so much easier and professional for me. Love getting your emails and miss them when they aren’t popping up so keep them coming. Dont know why someone has to be so negative about something like this!

  149. Yvonne . Avatar
    Yvonne .

    Dear Lisa. Maybey it is a good thing that all of this is happening. Now you have the chance to shift all your enthusiastic readers from…….let’s say it in a decent way……..the others !
    Anyway, I always read your posts with pleasure so please do not stop and keep your enthusiasm and spontaneity……I love all your stories and I will stay a real Dutch follower !

  150. Karen Avatar